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#1 2013-08-22 21:14:24

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York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

Going to take a chance on City Style in the 3.05, Godolphin has won the race 5 times in last 10 years and City Style has been plying his trade in much higher level than this for past 2 years. His form over 1m to 1m1f since 2011 is 112123236, all defeats came in either group 1 or 2 races.He dropped down to group 3 last time in the Rose Of Lancaster over 1m2f but didnt seem to stay plus was first run in over 4 months and Charlie Appleby has said he's come on for it.

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#2 2013-08-22 22:51:32

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

Kingsgate Choice ew in the Nunthorpe (3.40), already won over the course and distance this season and not beaten far here last time, just a neck and short behind Heerat who won the Hackwood next time. Ed Giles horses are running well and I think the high draw could be advantageous for Kingsgate Choice

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#3 2013-08-22 22:59:41

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

SHEA SHEA 340 York.NAP. clear on the middle of the track all on its own in kings stand .Newmarket didnt suit ..Today main market rivals r close and pace to aim at here. Frankie booked and givin the office inside final furlong should cut these down late on perfect going and flat track will suit..best in race imo.. ..Over to U Dettori..7/2..
 saver on moviesta 11/2 incase it goes pear shaped..

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#4 2013-08-22 23:06:52

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

Weather Alert from York, Thunderstorms been raining for nearly one hour now ! That could scupper my bet on Sole Power dam

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#5 2013-08-22 23:38:00

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

 

      155 gospel choir   6/1  nap   working well

 

      230 someone, 15/8 vc  irish raider has the beating of these,

 

      340 shea shea 7/2

 

                   treble   95/1   aprox

 

 

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#6 2013-08-23 04:53:40

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13


1.55 York


White Nile 14/1


David Simcock's 4 year old comes into this as the most lightly raced with only 3 career starts to date and although his fitness is definitely a concern after a 339 day absence I am absolutely sure this well bred son of Galileo is quite a bit better than his mark of 80 and if ready to do himself justice I think a very big run on the cards. A full brother to Dermot Weld's very decent Group 3 winning mare (at 4) Sense Of Purpose, White Nile made his debut last June as a 3 year old with a very encouraging 4th in a hot Maiden at Newmarket over 12f in soft ground when given a lovely introductory ride. Held up in last, White Nile made steady progress through the field to beaten 6L in the end with the front 4 well celar of the remainder. The winner Shantaram came into the race with extremely strong form and won a Group 3 comfortably on his next start whilst the runner up (2nd start) has since won in a handicap off a mark of 84. White Nile put that experience to good use when scoring on his 2nd start by a cosy enough neck over 10f at Newcastle in good to soft ground with the front 2 pulling well clear. Settled in touch on the outside under Graham Lee, White Nile got in a protracted battle with runner up Noble Silk for the final couple of furlongs and after that rival looked to have the upper hand heading into the final furlong White Nile responded really well for pressure and got up to be in command at the finish. The runner up is now rated 92 on the flat and it was a really nice victory. White Nile's final start came on handicap debut last September at Thirsk over 12f off a mark of 78 when going down by a head. Under Robert Winston and dropped out in the rear with the eventual winner, White Nile still showed signs of greeness in my opinions as he had to be bumped along on quite a few occasions from a fair way out in a strongly run race. Having looked in trouble with over 4f to go, White Nile came back on the bridle briefly before again looking under strong pressure just outside the 2f pole. He hit the front under strong pressure inside the final furlong and stayed there until the line when he was nabbed down the outside by Stormy Weather who got up in the final strides. Although he lost nothing in defeat, I think Winston thought he had the race won in the final 25 yards as he put down the whip and resorted to pushing him out with only his hands but he got done close home down the outside. 


That race is decent but not outstanding form but I think he'll have a learnt a lot from that day and I think he'll really come into his own with another year on his back now a 4 year old. A 2lb rise to a mark of 80 seems very fair and there is no doubt in my mind that this €215,000 purchase is quite a bit better than his current mark. Although its obviously unclear if he'll need the run or not, David Simcock could have found a much easier contest than this if he needs the run and I'm hoping they'll be going all out for the this decent prize today. William Buick very much catches the eye with a 17% strike rate for the trainer and a 31% strike rate for powerful owner Sir Robert Ogden and I'm very much hoping the jockey booking is an indication that a big run is expected. Apparently there has been an absolute deluge of rain tonight at York on top of ground that was watered (3mm) so it looks set to be soft ground which shouldn't be a problem for White Nile as all his runs to date have come with cut in them. He's bagged a very nice draw in stall 5 and David Simcock comes here with his horses in decent if not amazing form. The same trainer/owner combination are come here double handed with Castilio Del Diablo and Jamie Spencer sporting the first colours but I'm hoping that's only because the absence White Nile has to overcome. David Simcock seemed to be quite a big fan of White Nile when discussing him in his stable tour last year and he said he'll easily start 1m6f which could help a lot as the rain could have made this a very testing 12f. Although he may need the run, I'm definitely willing to take a chance on him being fully fit today at 14/1 and if ready to do himself justice I think a very big run could be on the cards and hopefully he'll land this valuable price on just his 4th career start.


3.40 York


Moviesta 6/1


The likely soft ground will be a massive disadvantage for Sole Power and won't be favourable for Shea Shea so I'm siding with Bryan Smart's remarkably consistent and progressive sprinter Moviesta who took the step up to Group company in his stride when scoring impressively at Goodwood over 5f in the Group 2 Betfred King George Stakes 3 weeks ago. With only 9 career starts to date, this 3 year old has only been out of the first 3 once in his career when finishing 8th on his seasonal reappearance but since then he's been absolutely flying winning 3 and going down very narrowly in 2nd on his 5 subsequent starts. After winning at Doncaster and over this C+D on soft ground, Moviesta did remarkably well to be beaten only a neck over 6f at York off a mark of 93 having pulled so hard and he was denied by a head off a mark of 98 at Newmarket over the same trip last month and he was very unlucky to not win both races. A real speed merchant who has a tremendous cruising speed, Moviesta relished the drop in trip and better company when running out an impressive winner at Goodwood earlier this month. Tardily away from the stalls which is unlike him, Moviesta actually came off the bridle midway through the race which is very unlike him as he was probably a bit further back than he ideally wants. Nevertheless, he powered through a gap inside the final furlong and despite edging left he scored by 1.5L. Despite facing tougher opposition, I think Moviesta relished going against horses who have the ability to go a break neck speed which just isn't sustainable by handicappers and although he's undoubtedly facing true Group 1 sprinters today I think he'll enjoy the increased pace even more. Drawn in stall 17, you've got to hope he's on the right side if they break into 2 groups and Tickled Pink should provide good pace for the high drawn horses. Moviesta clearly goes very well at York judged on his win and 2nd at the track and soft ground doesn't seem an issue to him judged on his C+D victory on his only start with give underfoot. Clearly loving every second of racing, this 3 year old has improved with every start this year and although the step up to Group 1 company is a big one I've seen nothing that leads me to doubt that he's got the ability to compete at this level. Regular pilot Paul Mulrennan is on board again to resume an excellent partnership and I think Moviesta looks a knocking each way bet given both his consistency and tremendous form. However, I'm quietly confident that Moviesta will take the step up in class in his stride and I think this is a sprinter very much going places.


4.55 York


Hay Dude 8/1


I was oh so impressed with Hay Dude's manner of victory 2 weeks at Haydock 2 weeks ago and I think the handicapper has got it horribly wrong by only putting him up 4lb. Elaine Burke's 3 year old has been steadily progressive over since upped to a mile (had a blip at Doncaster 3 starts back) and the manner of his latest victory leads me to believe there is a lot more to come with only 8 career starts to date. An easy winner from the more experienced and subsequent French Group 1 2nd Anna's Pearl on debut in testing conditions over 7f at Ayr, it took Hay Dude until his 5th career start and 3rd start as a 3 year old to regain the winning thread when scoring by a nose when upped to a mile for the first time at Haydock back in May off a mark of 90. After disappointing at Doncaster, Hay Dude ran a fine 3rd off a mark of 95 2 starts back at Ayr when he travelled beautifully through the race in a slowly enough run race where he couldn't quicken when asked by Tom Eaves as he was beaten 1.5L in 3rd. The winner looks smart winning 3 all starts since his debut whilst Mark Johnston's runner up won 4 starts later off the same mark for a decent prize at Brighton. A stronger pace really helped Hay Dude when winning under top weight LTO as he won with a lot more in hand than the 3/4L margin suggests. Today's jockey Danny Tudhope took the ride for the first time that day as he settled at the rear of mid division on the rail. Heading by the 3f pole, Tudhope sat there with a load of horse under him and stayed penned in until about 1.5f to go as he switched his mount wide to come with his challenge. Tudhope very confidently never resorted to using his whip as he quickened nicely to lead inside the final furlong under hands and heels riding and he was well in command at the finish. He looked to win with a load in hand and that form has already been boosted with the 3rd Gabrials Kaka (would have finished 2nd with a clearer run) bolting up by over 3L off the same mark at Pontefract the other day. Hay Dude has been raised 4lb to a mark of 99 and I don't know what race the handicapper was watching as he deserved a greater hike than that. I'm not complaining, however, and I think he's got a great chance in this as a result. He again carries a big weight of 9-6 but clearly carries weight very well and I think he's a horse that will earn some Black Type very soon. All his form since debut has come on a quicker surface but he won't have any issue with conditions judged on how he won on heavy ground on debut and hopefully the weight doesn't hamper his chances if very testing. The draw in stall 10 shouldn't be too much of an issue as he should be held up and Elaine Burke has her horses running very well at present. If getting a clear run and a good pace to aim at, I'm confident of a big run and I think Hay Dude could take a lot of stopping in 

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#7 2013-08-23 07:20:10

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

1.55 Gospel Choir @ 6/1

Only had five starts and landed a hat-trick of wins as a 3yo,before being hampered two out in a valuable handicap at Ascot.Gelded since last seen.Carries top weight here but should be plenty more to come from him.

3.40 Shea Shea @ 7/2

Just pipped by Sole Power in the Kings Stand in June and had excuses in the July Cup when the combination of a stiff 6f and being produced too soon counted against him.Looks an out and out 5f performer and should be hard to beat here.

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#8 2013-08-23 07:51:09

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

Has anyone a ground update at York after last nights heavy rain?

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#9 2013-08-23 08:10:27

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

YORK - Flat (Updated:23/08/2013 at 05:36:03) 
Going 
Good to Soft 

Rainfall: 20mm thunderstorm between 10pm and 11.30pm Thursday. 
Current conditions on Friday early morning: dry, broken cloud, 
warm. Metoffice forecast: Friday - dry, sunny spells and warm 
morning and early afternoon - 24 degrees. Rain front arriving 
through region later on Friday afternoon / evening, thundery 
rain possible overnight. Saturday morning - showers clearing by 
lunchtime to leave cloudy, largely dry afternoon, 20 degrees. 

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#10 2013-08-23 09:17:38

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

bitchy wrote:


YORK - Flat (Updated:23/08/2013 at 05:36:03) 
Going 
Good to Soft 

Rainfall: 20mm thunderstorm between 10pm and 11.30pm Thursday. 
Current conditions on Friday early morning: dry, broken cloud, 
warm. Metoffice forecast: Friday - dry, sunny spells and warm 
morning and early afternoon - 24 degrees. Rain front arriving 
through region later on Friday afternoon / evening, thundery 
rain possible overnight. Saturday morning - showers clearing by 
lunchtime to leave cloudy, largely dry afternoon, 20 degrees. 

Crikey hadn't realised that much rain had fallen, must reassess

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#11 2013-08-23 09:36:52

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

ALWAYS FIND THESE MEETS A BOOKIES BONANZA ON THE WHOLE,,,SO DRAW/RAIN WHATEVER I STILL CANNOT PICK THEM LOL   BUT GUT INSTINCT TODAY LEADS ME TO;


SWISS SPIRIT..SHOULD HAVE WON LTO (MOVIESTA IMP IT AND IT LOST ITS ACTION OR BUICK GAVE UP) ALL A BIT ODD


ITLAAQ/TEPMOKEA  EW SHOTS


SIMENON.BANKER...ALWAYS WORRY ABOUT 1...ASKAR TAU


DANADANA EW


GOOD LUCK ALL







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#12 2013-08-23 09:43:07

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

ROTO    WHITE NILE


BUICKS QUOTE


I start with WHITE NILE (1.55) for David Simcock in the mile and a half handicap and I am completely in the dark here because this will be the colt’s first run of the season and fourth in all – and he never raced at two.

He showed plenty of promise in 2012 although I notice that there was some give in the ground each time so that might be a concern.

On the plus side, David has his team in really good order and it’s worth remembering that I won on another of his having its first run of the season, No Heretic, at Newmarket in May.



HE HIGHLIGHTS THE GROUND? THAT WAS BEFORE THE RAIN,,AND A LITTLE HINT ABOUT RIDING 1ST TIME OUT0

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#13 2013-08-23 09:43:58

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

It absolutely hosed it down last nigh here in Yorkt. Massive thunderstorm, so keep a close eye of the going. It could be a bit sticky.

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#14 2013-08-23 09:45:00

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

Gospel choir nap

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#15 2013-08-23 09:55:52

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

stevesbar wrote:


ROTO    WHITE NILE


BUICKS QUOTE


I start with WHITE NILE (1.55) for David Simcock in the mile and a half handicap and I am completely in the dark here because this will be the colt’s first run of the season and fourth in all – and he never raced at two.

He showed plenty of promise in 2012 although I notice that there was some give in the ground each time so that might be a concern.

On the plus side, David has his team in really good order and it’s worth remembering that I won on another of his having its first run of the season, No Heretic, at Newmarket in May.



HE HIGHLIGHTS THE GROUND? THAT WAS BEFORE THE RAIN,,AND A LITTLE HINT ABOUT RIDING 1ST TIME OUT0



I still reckon this was a ploy and it would have ran better on Firmer so I would be cautious with this.

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#16 2013-08-23 10:27:15

Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

Gospel Choir 1.55 won first time out last year, Stoute does well in that opening handicap, could still be well handicapped off current mark of 98

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#17 2013-08-23 10:39:10

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

Currently with a Scoring Rate of1/12. You'd be better off ignoring these Friday selections
Tempmoka
Simeon
Pavlosk
Jawala
Bow Creek
Yourartsonfire


Good luck everybody, give the bookies a bashing.



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#18 2013-08-23 11:09:46

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

My winning placepot on Day 2 leaves me a placepot balance of -7 and an overall negative balance of -39pts (lost on Tornado and VDM)<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

 

Today’s selections:

Gospelchoir/CastilodeldiabloUNPLACED, Simenon/Caucus,  Robinhoodsbay/PavslokUNPLACED, Sheashea/Moviesta, GoldentownW, Majesticmoon/HaydudeUNPLACED

 

Medium bet on DiabloLOST and Big bet on Sheashea LOST

 

 

The worst day 3 for me. No placepot Sat. A simple e/w on Tigercliff in the Ebor. Goodluckall

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#19 2013-08-23 11:11:02

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13




Soft picks.


Kiama Bay1.55 York
(Win and Each Way)
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23/08/20133 Places
1/4 Odds
11/1To Run

Times Up2.30 York
(Win and Each Way)
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23/08/20132 Places
1/3 Odds
9/2To Run

Pavlosk3.05 York
(Win and Each Way)
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23/08/20132 Places
1/3 Odds
2/1To Run

Hamish McGonagall3.40 York
(Win and Each Way)
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23/08/20133 Places
1/4 Odds
40/1To Run

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#20 2013-08-23 11:37:19

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

3.40
Going solely on trend means that my selection would have very little chance.
No group wins in his cv.
One of the 3 oldest runner in the race.
No form this year.


Those are the minus pts but.....
2nd on this race in 2011
3rd last year
Comes alive at this cd everytime he races in it.
Never been out of the first 4 in this cd from 10 runs in hcps to group 1.


HAMISH MCGONAGALL 40/1 ew,Much to gain and less to lose at this odds.





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#21 2013-08-23 11:50:46

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

1.55; Kiama Bay 10/1 - won't mind the going and Graham Lee rides again
3.40; Swiss Spirit 8/1 - impeded lto and set to turn tables on Moviesta
4.55; Majestic Moon 11/2 - placed on GS, dist slight worry


Patent returns 899 to unit stake


Swiss Spirit/Moviesta  Rev F/c            Majestic Moon/Machete Mark Rev F/c

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#22 2013-08-23 12:21:03

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

Anyone Fancy 1:55

Come On Blue Chip (IRE) 20 
122522 b g NagMe Cheek piece

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#23 2013-08-23 12:38:35

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

charliesrfc wrote:


Anyone Fancy 1:55

Come On Blue Chip (IRE) 20 
122522 b g NagMe Cheek piece

0








See Trainer quote on Racing Post Quotes



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#24 2013-08-23 12:46:39

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

2.30 Simenon nap

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#25 2013-08-23 12:51:56

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Re: York Ebor Meeting - Day 3 Fri 23-08-13

postman wrote:


charliesrfc wrote:


Anyone Fancy 1:55

Come On Blue Chip (IRE) 20 
122522 b g NagMe Cheek piece

0








See Trainer quote on Racing Post Quotes



Sorted Postman thanks pal EW all the way

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